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Post subject:  Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:42 am |
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OK, well, the new quest, then, is to see if we can fix that. I wonder how many people it affects. Probably a large percentage of our loyal fans. Like, 12 people... 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:59 am |
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Would starting a new save change anything as far as the achievement activation works? Say, not logging into Live and using a profile off a mem card? Then log in with the profile data from the mem card.
I am not clear on how the achievemnt coding works, or how it talks to the Live servers, so that may be entirely off base, but I have heard of similar fixed for glitchy achievemnts before. Those achievements were issues with the game and not the servers however.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:54 am |
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Well, the way the code works, it asks the operating system if you've already got the achievement before it tries to award it to you again. Unfortunately, the system seems to think you've got the achievement, so it doesn't attempt to award it again.
Of course, this would be fine if there weren't the other problem letting you half-achieve achievements. 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:24 am |
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Congratulations, NinjaBee: You've officially broke the system!
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:24 am |
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Out of my own morbid curiousity how does it check?
If someone was lucky enough to have a saved profile on a memory card before the achievements were initally earned would logging in from that memory card try to apply the achievemnts again? (say a separate 360, whatever is necessary to depend entirely on the memory card profile data)
Or would it get an update from the live servers which could somehow mess that whole idea up?
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:56 am |
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That's a good question. I'm not sure, but if you had earned the achievements later, then I imagine the system (which I nebulously define here as your Xbox 360 and any information it got from Live) would still think they were earned and not re-award them.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:13 am |
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stay wrote: That's a good question. I'm not sure, but if you had earned the achievements later, then I imagine the system (which I nebulously define here as your Xbox 360 and any information it got from Live) would still think they were earned and not re-award them.
However, isn't this issue more Live not knowning the achievemnts existed at all initially?
While there wasn't a piece of data to check off signifying the achievment gain before, now there is. So while the data to aknowledge the achievement was uploaded previously on the profile the Live side had no idea.
Trying to figure the whole thing out now...
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:34 am |
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NinjaBee,
Just wanted to post to get my userID on the list of effected users. My gametag is "Sir Eagle 389".
Regards,
Sir Eagle
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:52 am |
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I think there were about 500-600 affected users judging from the last time I checked the at the root leaderboard, anyone on that should have at least one of the achievements.
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Post subject: Re: dlc ahchievement glitch Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:12 pm |
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stay wrote: It sucks that I even have to say anything in our defense on this, but the long delay is making us look bad and hurting our customers, and I hate that.
That said, I'm still sorry this happened, and I'll pass along any concrete information as soon as I have any.
Just FYI, the fact that I didn't get these cheevos yet isn't going to prevent me in the least from checking out your future titles and/or DLC. Have loved all three XBLA that I have from NinjaBee (OKX,CC,BOB), even though I haven't had a chance to finish OKX.
However please do keep working to resolve this issue. I'm going to try and re-unlock the achievments tonight.
And put out another BoB campaign ... or sequel ! YES !
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:15 pm |
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stay wrote: I wonder how many people it affects. Probably a large percentage of our loyal fans. Like, 12 people... I've still skipped the DLC myself waiting for this issue to be fixed. The second it is, I am going to purchase it and get those achievements!
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:42 pm |
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Game Master 627 wrote: stay wrote: I wonder how many people it affects. Probably a large percentage of our loyal fans. Like, 12 people... I've still skipped the DLC myself waiting for this issue to be fixed. The second it is, I am going to purchase it and get those achievements! Well since the achievments are now showing up on my gamercard (albeit Locked) i'd guess that Unlocking them for the first time would grant you the cheevo. but don't quote me !
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:28 am |
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xenocidic wrote: Game Master 627 wrote: stay wrote: I wonder how many people it affects. Probably a large percentage of our loyal fans. Like, 12 people... I've still skipped the DLC myself waiting for this issue to be fixed. The second it is, I am going to purchase it and get those achievements! Well since the achievments are now showing up on my gamercard (albeit Locked) i'd guess that Unlocking them for the first time would grant you the cheevo. but don't quote me ! There are 11 people with more than 200 on mygamercard.net. Anyone getting the achievements now should get the points.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:51 am |
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Solution:
Again my apparently unfounded misgivings, I followed the advice posted by "Ix KrazyKaos xI" on the xbox.com forums and I did an account recovery which relocked the achievements.
All I needed to was to replay At the Root to unlock both of the achievements and the 30 points that go along with them.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:00 am |
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Very interesting! Did the account recovery not have bad side effects? I thought recovering an account was potentially bad...
Edit: This is the thread with the discussion in it. Maybe recovery is not so bad? I'm still scared of it.
http://forums.xbox.com/14806431/ShowPost.aspx
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